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« Reply #15 on Feb 10, 2005, 10:56pm » | |
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i am srry to say that...but if you if you truley believe in Jesus as your savior (im not saying you do) then it is , in a way, impossible for you to be gay. But if you are gay, and do not believe in Jesus as your one and only true savior and believe in his word, i again am srry to say yes, you (not nececarily) and any other gay will go to hell.
Gay feelings and intuitions are the grip of Satan, and if you follow these feelings, then you are allowing Satan to control your life and that will for sure get you a one way ticket to hell.
Srry for being so harsh, and srry if i offended you i dotn want to upset you or turn you away from the forum or your life, i just want to get my point across.
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Actually I don't believe that was very harsh. I'll admit it I'm bisexual. I don't have a problem with being bisexual. I've never really done anything with another male other than kissed. And that's most likely where it'll end. If people want to hate me because of that then so be it.
If they can't see past that and see the other parts of me then that's their own fault. If I'm going to hell and won't be able to be saved then I guess I shouldn't be bisexual. If I could I would stop myself. I can't help the way I feel about people though.
I won't leave the forum because people hate me because I'm this way. I'll leave if I feel that everyone on the forum does. 
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« Reply #16 on Feb 11, 2005, 6:00am » | |
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Actually I don't believe that was very harsh. I'll admit it I'm bisexual. I don't have a problem with being bisexual. I've never really done anything with another male other than kissed. And that's most likely where it'll end. If people want to hate me because of that then so be it.
If they can't see past that and see the other parts of me then that's their own fault. If I'm going to hell and won't be able to be saved then I guess I shouldn't be bisexual. If I could I would stop myself. I can't help the way I feel about people though.
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You should know that it's not what other people think about you that matters, but what you think about yourself. If you're a lower self esteem person, then you'd leave if everybody hated you. If you were a high self esteem person, you'd look up high and say, "I don't give a poo what you think!"
But back to the actual subject, I have a question for geek. I'm doing some biblical research, so excuse me if I'm getting anything wrong. I just want to clarify something for myself. If you're gay, and have accepted Jesus as your Savior, what would happen then?
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« Reply #17 on Feb 11, 2005, 8:14am » | |
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Actually I don't believe that was very harsh. I'll admit it I'm bisexual. I don't have a problem with being bisexual. I've never really done anything with another male other than kissed. And that's most likely where it'll end. If people want to hate me because of that then so be it.
If they can't see past that and see the other parts of me then that's their own fault. If I'm going to hell and won't be able to be saved then I guess I shouldn't be bisexual. If I could I would stop myself. I can't help the way I feel about people though.
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We don't hate you, Christians love others, even if what they do is wrong. People try to justify it by saying, "If God loves all people, how about gays?" Well, God is a just God, and he has to punish sin. Homosexuality is a sin, and is dealt with in the bible. If you want proof, I'll give it to you later.
And if you're gay and have accepted Christ, you should feel the conviction of rebellion against God. And do not fool yourself Cx2x, in the New Testament it clearly says 'homosexuals will not enter the kingdom of God...' I'm saying this as a brotherly warning.
It doesn't matter how 'kind' or 'good' you are, you've sinned, and God must judge.
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| | Re: Do you Believe in Gay Marriages
« Reply #18 on Feb 11, 2005, 9:29am » | |
Quote:Cx2x: you took my statment about gays adopting children all wrong. What i was saying is that God comanded us to reproduce. And gay couples cant do that. That was my point.
And to answer your other question. Yes gays will go mostlikley go to hell it is a sin against God and GOd has no toleration for it. I dont remember the exact words, but the asnwer to your question is YES. |
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I have to disagree being a Christian..I know God to be a Just and living God. He sent his son to die for us right? The pastors, preist, and popes all preach that God sent his son to die for our sins...not just the sins of those that were alive when he was here on earth, but for the sins of the WHOLE world...past, present, and future sins. Therefore wher ei stand i believe anyone who is willing to confess of their sins will be forgiven for it. And the bible clearly states that..."The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is ETERNAL LIFE" That verse to me is that those that believe in God, Whorship him and ask him into their are WILL go to heaven despite their ways of life. WE are HUMANS we are SINNERS all of us no exception to anyone.
I dont say i agree with Gay marriages, but here is a question. Say someone had a sex change and married a person of their NOW Opposeing sex...is that considered a GAY marraige? I mean they are now man and woman? Is it still just as wrong? I mean sex changes are becomming more common and the question now is who is accepting to that and is it wrong as well?
I dont recall there being in teh bible a CERTAIN passage that talks about those that do something of that sort, but I dunno. I mean some people grow up to feel like there is something about them that is different, the believe that they are meant to be something that their not and they dont fit in so they take those actions and then live in the real world...So tell me...is that a GAY marriage?
I do feel as well that love is love...I mean your heart tends to stray to certain people and you cant control that, but gays does seem a bit blah you know...I mean why? But yeah okay thats my 2 cents.
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| | Re: Do you Believe in Gay Marriages
« Reply #19 on Feb 11, 2005, 10:34am » | |
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« Reply #20 on Feb 11, 2005, 11:19am » | |
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I have to disagree being a Christian..I know God to be a Just and living God. He sent his son to die for us right? The pastors, preist, and popes all preach that God sent his son to die for our sins...not just the sins of those that were alive when he was here on earth, but for the sins of the WHOLE world...past, present, and future sins. Therefore wher ei stand i believe anyone who is willing to confess of their sins will be forgiven for it. And the bible clearly states that..."The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is ETERNAL LIFE" That verse to me is that those that believe in God, Whorship him and ask him into their are WILL go to heaven despite their ways of life. WE are HUMANS we are SINNERS all of us no exception to anyone.
I dont say i agree with Gay marriages, but here is a question. Say someone had a sex change and married a person of their NOW Opposeing sex...is that considered a GAY marraige? I mean they are now man and woman? Is it still just as wrong? I mean sex changes are becomming more common and the question now is who is accepting to that and is it wrong as well?
I dont recall there being in teh bible a CERTAIN passage that talks about those that do something of that sort, but I dunno. I mean some people grow up to feel like there is something about them that is different, the believe that they are meant to be something that their not and they dont fit in so they take those actions and then live in the real world...So tell me...is that a GAY marriage?
I do feel as well that love is love...I mean your heart tends to stray to certain people and you cant control that, but gays does seem a bit blah you know...I mean why? But yeah okay thats my 2 cents. |
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Well first off, i wan to say that...the bible does state in John 3: 16 that His gift is eternal life, but it also states that homosexuals will not enter the kingdom of God, it says it loud and clear. I do not hate anyone because of their sexual preference. I get to know them before i judge them. I am srry to say thats gays will not enter heavan because i have had a couple gay friends who were really nice. I have explained this point to them and they have accepted the fact. They have also told me "why should i agree with a religion that doesnt agree with me." This is a very sad time in our world.
On your other point. The Bible does not talk about a sex change. because that is the same as a gay marriage. Just because you had a physical chnage does not mean that you are a different person. So yes, sex chnage in marriage would still be a gay marriage.
Also. Like was stated before. Sodom and Gamorrah, were two Biblical cities that were destroyed by God because of Homosexual acts. This shows that homosexulity is not tolerated by God and that is why they will not be able to enter his kingdom. Now if they are able to accept God and turn away from the pull of satan and Homosexuality, then yes they will be able to enter His kingdom. If not they have lost the very thign that we were put on this earth to achieve.
-Cx2x...we do not hate your because of your choice. So far you seem like a good guy. And i am glad to have you here with us.
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« Reply #21 on Feb 11, 2005, 11:38am » | |
I still disagree you are only repeating yourself instead of pointing out he answer to the questions...First Does God love all people? Yes...Its said that God loves all but hates their sin.
I do not think that you will just GO TO HELL for being gay or havinga sex change, but i do how ever believe that if the person believes in God having done either of those will strive to be like God.
I agree its a sad time we are living in, but that doest justify you or any other christian can go around and tell people they are going to hell. I know this next bit is not part fully of the debate but make sure you at least read the BOLD print.
Quote:The Question of Hell
The following is supposedly an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well.
Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed)or some variant.
One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa Henderson during my Freshman year that, " it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you, and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number 2 must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over.
The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct...leaving only Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh my God."
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The point is the times we live in are SO SAD that if you think about everyone is going to go to hell just because the fact that everyone says that one thing someone does is wrong then they are going to hell.
Now lets too thnk about what you said about the bible when God destroyed those two cities. Were they destroyed before he sent his son? Before he gave us a way to be more like him to be with him? God hates sin but loves each and everyone of us despite our flaws.
I dont doubt my religin no...I love God hes my creator and mentor, but I do sometimes question the people in my religious family and the certain things that are preached.
I duty is to reach all lost people and try to point them in the right direction. I believe in and trust in God with all my heart, and my religion states that because of those to things, and because i know that im a sinner and confess my sins and try to do whats right by him that I WILL go to HEAVEN. That does not mean i wont have my times that i may slip up and sin, but i canbe forgiven for it.
Because a woman has an abortion one of the ten commandments states, "THOU SHALT NOT KILL" Does NOT mean she will go to hell. She messed up. God gave us as Humans the freedom of Choice and Decisions. He didnt want to FORCE us to love him. He wanted it to be of our own free will that we turned to him.
I think that despite what sin one commits that so long as they believe in God and love him and cherish him and confess and turn form sin that they WILL go to heaven. Again this is not saying that they wont silp up a few times on the way, but who doesnt stumble in their christian walk?
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« Reply #22 on Feb 11, 2005, 11:52am » | |
apparently you are not seeign the truth behind what we are saying. I have never said that just because yoy are not part of the religion you will go to hell. BUT it does say in the bible that you do not believe in him and follow his words and teachings and believe in Jesus as your oen and only ture savior you will go to hell. Also, do you have any proof to what you are saying. I do. Id like you to come up with something to support what you are saying. I have the whole bible. And the, one specific part is the where it says that homosexuals will not go to heaven. I do not have the exact verse because i am at school and do not have my bible. I will be sure to get that for you. Also. It is not good if you question Gods teachings. I am not sayign that everythign a pastor says is law, and maybe im takign this wrong but it sounds like you are questioning your beliefs. Hell is real and hell is the consiquence.
Now, granted every sinner will not go to hell, and having an abortion does break a commandment, but God makes no mention of that in the bible. He does mention as i have said many times before and you as you seem not to want to accept. Homosexuals will not enter heaven. I do not mean to repeat myself, but it is a fact and the truth.
also. My question to you is, Why would God create one man and one woman and tell them to go multiply and fill the earth, if that is not the way he intended it. If he wanted gay marriage and gay relations, whyn not create a man and a man, or a woman and a womana? He made it specifically so that only man and woman can produce offspring. That is the way he designed it, that is the way he wanted it.
Another thing. God makes mention to the earth falling into homoselxuality toward the end of the bible when he starts to explain the "end" in Revelation. Tell me why he would destroy Sodom and Gemorrah for homosexual acts, if he would tolerate it.
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« Reply #23 on Feb 11, 2005, 12:32pm » | |
I am not questioning my beliefs i just have questions that no one seems to be able to answer. I question others and wht others tell me. Im a Christian. A southern Baptist and have been going to church for as long as i can remember. I know where my heart lies, and im not trying to justify the wrongs.
If homosexuals will go to hell no questions asked, then why do we as Christians go out and try to confront them telling them the wrongs and try to get them to turn to the rights? I read whay your saying an I stand behind the better deal of it. But the part that you keep saying just doesnt click with me it makes me question ore.
You say hands donw no ifs, ands, or buts about it that homosexuals will go to hell. But I believe that you are mistaken in the fact that i belive if they are believers in God and are trying to right their wrongs then they will go to heaven, because GOD is a FORGIVING God.
MY God is a JUST, LOVING, JUDGING, JEALOUS, FIERCE, FIRM God. I do NOT doubt him or quetion him, but i do question you and everyone else. I read my bible. I pray daily, because i know that i cant make it through life without his guidence.
My question is if you were to commit a sin...which you do...and even worse youve sinned against the ten commandments and even commited one of the SEVEN DEADLY sins... you lust...all people lust...you see some one and you think about how youd want to date them be with them..that is lust...You murder...if you have ever hated someone it says in the bible that its like murdering someone in your mind and heart. But you have commited these sins fallen, strayed, stumbled and swayed from your path from God, but will you go to hell?
NO. God is the shepard, we his sheep. He keeps watch over us and sends out other shepards to guide us when we stray, hence pastors and priest and popes. They tell us we have commit wrongs and we pray asking for forgiveness. therefore we do not go to hell.
Same i believe true with homosexuality, If one is guilty of such a sin then i believe that my god being all knowing all powerful all loving and all merciful will forgive them if they ask for his forgiveness.
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« Reply #24 on Feb 11, 2005, 4:45pm » | |
Quote:I am not questioning my beliefs i just have questions that no one seems to be able to answer. I question others and wht others tell me. Im a Christian. A southern Baptist and have been going to church for as long as i can remember. I know where my heart lies, and im not trying to justify the wrongs.
If homosexuals will go to hell no questions asked, then why do we as Christians go out and try to confront them telling them the wrongs and try to get them to turn to the rights? I read whay your saying an I stand behind the better deal of it. But the part that you keep saying just doesnt click with me it makes me question ore.
You say hands donw no ifs, ands, or buts about it that homosexuals will go to hell. But I believe that you are mistaken in the fact that i belive if they are believers in God and are trying to right their wrongs then they will go to heaven, because GOD is a FORGIVING God.
MY God is a JUST, LOVING, JUDGING, JEALOUS, FIERCE, FIRM God. I do NOT doubt him or quetion him, but i do question you and everyone else. I read my bible. I pray daily, because i know that i cant make it through life without his guidence.
My question is if you were to commit a sin...which you do...and even worse youve sinned against the ten commandments and even commited one of the SEVEN DEADLY sins... you lust...all people lust...you see some one and you think about how youd want to date them be with them..that is lust...You murder...if you have ever hated someone it says in the bible that its like murdering someone in your mind and heart. But you have commited these sins fallen, strayed, stumbled and swayed from your path from God, but will you go to hell?
NO. God is the shepard, we his sheep. He keeps watch over us and sends out other shepards to guide us when we stray, hence pastors and priest and popes. They tell us we have commit wrongs and we pray asking for forgiveness. therefore we do not go to hell.
Same i believe true with homosexuality, If one is guilty of such a sin then i believe that my god being all knowing all powerful all loving and all merciful will forgive them if they ask for his forgiveness. |
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There is a difference between commiting sins, and LIVING in a sinful lifestyle. Sure, we all sin as you rightly stated, but true repentance is what God honors, it is not simply being sorry for what you did, but amending your ways and keeping to the straight and narrow path. However, to LIVE in sin is one thing God does not honor, it 'profanes and makes common' the blood of Christ. And for that, any person living in a sinful lifestyle will surely go to hell, claiming to be a Christian or not. Not only homosexuality, but any sin that dominates your life.
Ok, this is the gist of what a good Chrisitan knows: Homosexuality is a sin, we've been over that already. It is just a bad a sin as anything else, all sins are 'falling short' of the mark, the glory of God. To live in a homosexual lifestyle is to PRACTICE that sin, which means that you ask God for forgiveness, but what does that profit? If you sin everyday and ask for forgiveness everyday, God will not honor that but will hold you accountable for profaning the blood of Christ.
Galatians 5:21 "... those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Corinthians 6:9 - "...Neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
Notice how homosexuals are not the only sinners in there? It is wrong because homosexuality is a lifestyle, not a single action. You can steal once, you can revile a few times, you can be a drunkard but shape up to be an honest man. But homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, and moreover:
1 Corinthians 6:18 - "Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body."
Do you see the implication? God created sex as a holy way to honor God by reproducing, populating the Earth. When a human mind, affected by carnality, twists that to lust after the same sex, not only is it a technical sin, but it is also an abomination: "Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body" -1 Corinth 6:13
God abhors such actions, because homosexuality is not only a sin, its is a practiced lifestyle, it affects not outside but inside your body, and if you're a Christian, you are joining the Holy Spirit within you to a sinful relation every time your practice homosexual tendencies.
All my reasoning is not biased, it is based on the very principles of the bible, and I hope that you, as a fellow brother, can have your eyes opened to see what God is trying to tell you.
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« Reply #25 on Feb 12, 2005, 4:37pm » | |
IM not saying it's bad nor am i saying its good
It's just that the people have there own decisions its ok to go whatever direction/way you want.
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« Reply #26 on Feb 12, 2005, 8:57pm » | |
I agree, and you know the consequences, so if you choose to go down that road, knowing what lies ahead, it is your choice.
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I believe that no one should have to go to hell...that is why Christians go around trying to convince homosexuals that what they are doing is wrong, because they do not want to see them get condemnd for eternity.
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no one has replied in three days, maybe I proved my point. 
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Seems that the debate has done well, even though, no one has posted about it in nearly a month. I'll come back later and modify this will some more of what I think.
Question, will another debate start soon since it's now March?
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